Capacitors
© Brooke Clarke 2010 http://www.prc68.com/I/Capacitors.shtmlExamples of Bad Caps
Super Capacitors
Memory
Industrial/Commercial
Automotive Sound
Measuring the Capacity of a Super Capacitor
Table
Background
The first choice was to get leaded parts to allow insertion in the ESR MIcro and the SR715. Parts that are a few cents were ordered on tape at 100 each so in some photos you will see the tape. The photos have been scaled so they are all 200 pixels wide, so the scale factor varies a lot, i.e. they are NOT shown in relative size.
The photos will help ID different types of caps. More photos on the Capacitor Failure paragraph on the Hints & Tips web page.
Wiki page Capacitor plague about the bad electrolytic caps (Wiki) made around 1999 but still being used up to about 2007 and failing in 2010.
Examples of Bad Caps
Heathkit GC-1000 Most Accurate Clock
This had nearly all the electrolytic caps bad. It's now working great on the built-in whip antenna.Oven Controller
See Hints and Tips: Cold Oven http://www.prc68.com/I/HaT.shtml#Oven Robertshaw Controller in GE Electric OvenTwo caps in the analog temperature control circuitry, both marked 4.7 uF 35 V, tested C: 000 ESR: ---. The interesting thing is that the replacement caps, rated 4.7 uF 25 V, are larger. This means the capacitors the factory used were faulty in that you can't get that much capacitance in that small a package with that voltage rating.
I didn't determine the working voltage of the 4-bit micro controller but expect it runs on 5 volts. The LM324 op amp might be running as high as 32 V, but I very much doubt it, +/- 15 would be the max expected, so getting 25 V replacement caps seems to be conservative.
The bad C1 and C17 caps
were punched into a copy of the board photograph to keep
track of them and then bare wires were soldered on to
allow them to fit in the SR LCR meter or HP LCR
fixture. You can see that the new caps are much
bigger.
The height needs to be short in order to allow for the relay board that's mounted directly above this board (see the Hints and Tips web page). The replacement parts were installed laying on their sides out of general principles. But it turned out it was required for vertical clearnace. The volume of an electrylytic capacitor depends on both the capacitance and on the working voltage and since the new part has a lower working voltage there's a huge difference in volume. |
Super Capacitors
There are three general types of super capacitors (Wiki: Capacitor). They are also known as Double Layer Capacitors (Wiki)
Memory Hold Up Super Caps
These typically have an internal resistance that's 10 or more Ohms. Because of the high internal resistance they're good for very low current applications, but can not be used for powering motors or other high energy applications.
See 24 and 25 below.
Commercial/Industrial Super Caps
20 Farad 2.7 Volt Kamcap
Miller Solar Engine 0.35 F, 2.7V
These are typically single units and so have a breakdown voltage under three volts.
Measuring (see below) a 20 Farad 2.7 Volt capacitor by setting the HP E3617A bench top power supply for 2.5 Volts (below the 2.7 V max) and with the clip leads shorted setting the current to 0.5 Amps.
Connecting the second clip lead when the clock is at the top of a minute (23:32:00) and watching the voltage on the power supply climb.
It gets to 2.0 volts at 23:33:25, i.e. after 85 seconds.
So the total Coulombs moved is I (Amp)* t (sec)= 0.5A * 85 seconds = 42.5 CoulC = Q / V = 42.5 Coul / 2 Volts = 21.2 Farads
Automotive Audio Super Caps
These start at about 1 Farad and are rated for "12 Volt" automotive electrical systems and so can be charged.
It's probably also a good idea for automotive users to remove the voltmeter so that the battery will hold it's charge for a longer time. With the voltmeter connected the cap drains very quickly, but without the meter the battery takes a few days to discharge to 9 Volts. If the cap discharges too far it may blow a fuse in an automotive application.
The built-in voltmeter shows Lo from about 5 volts to 8.34 Volts then shows the voltage up to 15.9 Volts, and above that shows Hi.
The meter draws 17 ma at 16 volts, which is a large part of 100 ma, which I'm using to measure the capacitance, so for measuring the capacitance it's best to remove the meter.
1 Farad Cap
with Voltmeter removed
Measuring the Capacity of a Super Capacitor
The method is known as Coulomb (Wiki) counting and is commonly used to measure battery State Of Charge (Wiki: SOC Coulomb counting).
For example for the 1 Farad Truconnex super capacitor above I started with the terminals shorted for a little while so the voltage was zero.
Then setup an HP/Agilent E3617A bench top power supply for 16.0 Volts open circuit and with the leads shorted together set the current to 100 mA.
At the top of a minute I connected the power supply to the super capacitor and watched the voltage meter on the supply climb up to 14 Volts and noted the time again (it was right at 2 minutes.
The number of coulombs delivered to the capacitor is 0.1 Amps * 120 Seconds = 12 coulombs
Note: The reason for using a current source rather than a common power supply that's close to a constant voltage source is that if a voltage source is used the current will be constantly changing to reflect the voltage difference between the fixed power supply voltage and the increasing capacitor voltage. That makes it very hard to count the charge transfer (coulombs).
C = Q / V = 12 coul / 14 V = 0.857 Farad
Plotting in Excell the time vs. voltage and fitting a straight line that goes through 0, 0 gives the following slope & quality of fit:
Volts on the Y axis and Seconds on the X axis.
C = dQ / dV
dQ is the change in one second and since the current is 0.1 Amp that's 0.1 coulomb.
dV is the slope of the line and that's 0.0776 so:
C = 0.1 / 0.0776 = 1.288 Farads
This may be a little more accurate than basing the capacitance on a single measurement, like above.
There is a little curvature in the actual data compared to the straight line, not sure why.
Next try this with a different current to see if it results in a similar answer.
Table
SR 715 at left then counter clockwise Micro ESR-Cap meter, EVB ESR (only) meter, Fluke 87 DMM
# |
Photo | Mouser p/n | Type | Cap | Voltage | $ | ESR Micro | Fluke 87 |
EVB |
SR715 | HP4328 |
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ESR | Cap uf |
Cap uf |
ESR |
R | C uf |
ESR |
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1 |
647-UVR1C101MDD1TD | Al Electrolytic |
100 uf | 116 |
102 |
92.65 |
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16 | 0.03 | 1.2 |
1.0 |
1.85 |
1.45 |
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2 |
647-UVZ0J153MHD | Al Electrolytic |
15,000 uf | 14750 | OL |
13670 | |||||||
6.3 | 1.40 | 0.06 |
0.06 |
.036 |
0.043 |
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3 |
647-UHM0J272MPD | Al Electrolytic |
2,700 uf | 2750 |
2944 |
2594 | |||||||
6.3 | 0.34 | 0.06 |
0.07 |
0.018 |
0.025 |
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4 |
647-UVR1H220MDD1TA | Al Electrolytic |
22 uf | 23.5 |
20.7 |
19.8 | |||||||
50 | 0.02 | 1.5 |
1.1 |
4.3 |
2.4 |
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5 |
647-UHD1A471MPD1TD | Al Electrolytic |
470 uf | 495 |
490 |
490 |
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10 | 0.08 | 0.09 |
0 |
0.14 |
0.096 |
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6 |
661-PSA10VB100M | Al Organic Polymer | 100 uf | 105 |
106 |
103 |
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10 | 0.72 | 0.06 |
0 |
0.34 |
0.078 |
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7 |
75-94SA226X0020CBP | Al Organic Polymer | 22 uf | 28.3 |
24.9 |
24 | |||||||
20 | 1.55 | 0.3 |
0.06 | 1.0 | 0.263 |
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8 |
647-PLF0J471MC06 | Al Organic Polymer | 470 uf | 496 |
492 |
480 | |||||||
6.3 | 1.15 | 0.2 |
0 |
0.02 |
0.0160 |
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9 |
598-CD15ED270J03F | Mica | 27 pf | 0 |
Note1 |
27.8pf | |||||||
500 | 0.75 | ---- |
19.5 |
OL |
93k |
OL |
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10 |
810-FK26Y5V1A226Z | Multi Layer Ceramic | 22 uf | 15 |
14.7 | ||||||||
10 | 0.34 | 0.22 |
0.01 | 4 | Note 3 |
0.08 |
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11 |
810-FK22X7R1C226M | Multi Layer Ceramic | 22 uf | 25 |
23.3 |
24.6 | |||||||
16 | 1.06 | 0.13 |
0.01 |
2.3 |
0.248 |
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12 |
581-NOJC107M006RWJ | Niobium Oxide | 100 uf | 106.8 |
95.0 |
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6 | 0.67 | 0.16 |
0.24 |
Note2 | Note2 | Note2 | |||||||
13 |
581-NOJB226M006 | Niobium Oxide | 22 uf | 32.1 |
27.1 |
Note2 | Note2 | ||||||
6 | 0.42 | 0.46 |
0.46 |
Note2 | |||||||||
14 |
581-NOJE477M004 | Niobium Oxide | 470 uf | 441 |
452 |
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4 | 4.30 | 0.08 |
0.01 |
Note2 | Note2 | Note2 | |||||||
15 |
140-PF2A472F | Polyester Film | 0.0047 | 0 |
5mf |
4.78mf | |||||||
100 | 0.51 | ---- |
OL |
368 |
OL |
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16 |
80-MMK37.5226K250R06 | Polyester Film | 22 uf | 25.4 |
22.0 |
21.9 | |||||||
250 | 5.98 | 0.39 |
0.24 |
0.14 |
0.1 |
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17 |
80-T520B107M4ATE35 | Polymer Tantalum | 100 uf | 111.8 |
96.5 |
Note2 | Note2 | ||||||
4
ESD |
0.94 | 0.07 |
0.06 |
Note2 | |||||||||
18 |
80-T520A226M6ATE100 | Polymer Tantalum | 22 uf | 25.4 | 22.6 |
Note2 | Note2 | ||||||
6.3
ESD |
0.72 | 0.14 |
0.13 |
Note2 | |||||||||
19 |
80-T520D477M004 | Polymer Tantalum | 470 uf | 441 |
439 |
Note2 | Note2 | ||||||
4 ESD |
1.31 | 0.05 |
0.08 |
Note2 | |||||||||
20 |
871-B32676E3226K | Polypropylene | 22 uf | 25.6 |
22.23 |
22.12 | |||||||
300 | 10.85 | 0.12 |
0.03 |
-0.004 |
0.14 |
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21 |
505-FKP233/1000/5 | Polypropylene | 33 pf | 0 |
Note1 | Note2 | Note2 | ||||||
1000 | 0.49 | ---- |
OL |
OL |
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22 |
581-TAP226K016CRW | Solid Tantalum | 22 uf | 26.1 |
22.6 |
22.1 | |||||||
16 | 0.53 | 0.48 |
0.43 |
1.4 |
0.76 |
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23 |
71-597D477X0004V2T | Solid Tantalum | 470 uf | 495 |
486 |
Note2 | Note2 | ||||||
4 ESD |
1.45 | 0.05 |
0.15 |
Note2 | |||||||||
24 |
598-EDLSG105V5R5C | Supercapacitor | 1 f | OL |
Note2 | Note2 | |||||||
5.5 | 2.94 | 6.5 |
7.5 |
7.2 |
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25 |
|
581-BZ015B603ZLB | Supercapacitor | 60 mf | R ONLY |
OL |
Note2 | Note2 | |||||
5.5 | 14.42 | 0.12 |
0.29 |
0.097 |
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26 |
FRS
CGC-10 |
Computer
Grade |
90,000 |
R ONLY | OL |
98030 |
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10 |
1.75 |
0.03 |
0.02 |
. |
-0.0025 |
0.0165 |
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27 |
FRS
MC-3.3 |
Polypropylene |
3.3 |
3.9 |
3.41 |
3.4108 |
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400 |
2.00 |
0.51 |
0.52 |
0.050 |
0.78 |
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28 |
FRS
OMB1MFD |
Orange
Coating |
1.0 |
1.2 |
1.006 |
1.0040 |
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630 |
1.96 |
2.0 |
1.7 |
2.77 |
4.2 |
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29 |
647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA | Al
Electrolytic |
4.7 |
4.7 |
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25 |
3.3 |
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30 |
Western Electric 21 BG dual 1 MF 21 AP 1 MF 1127513 Paper Condenser, Feb 9 1915 575653 Electrical condenser, Jan 19, 1897 449A-61 1 uF |
Paper <0.2 uA5 0.1 uA5 < 0.2 uA5 |
5.0 4.6 6.5 5.1 |
1.46 1.54 1.33 1.17 |
1.31 & 1.41 1.16 1.055 |
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No. |
Photo | Mouser p/n | Type |
Cap |
Voltage |
$ |
ESR |
Cap |
Fluke 87 CaP |
EVB ESR |
HP 4328 ESR |
Note 2 the Stanford Research 715 is fixtured for axial lead parts only, SMT and supercaps do not fit.
Note 3 Multi Layer Ceramic Caps (MLCC) have frequency dependent capacitance and series resistance on the SR 715.
Note 4 FRS is Fair Radio Sales
Note 5 Leakage at 50 V (after soaking a minute) for Cap30